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Slave Of An Engine

A friend of mine once started to play chess in the net too, a little bit earlier then I started. His real rating was around 1600, yet in the net he soon reached a grandmaster's performance. The reason was clear, he admitted the (first) occasional, then more frequent and finally entire use of good old Fritz for almost every (except the first moves). Yet at least he was intelligent enough to recognize, that he had ended as a mere slave of an engine. As he did not like his own moves anymore and his mediocre performance in the real world after his spell as a 'Internet grandmaster', so have he gave chess up completely.

Well, I am not planning to give up on chess, yet on reducing my play within the virtual world of the net. People use engines here and they use them A LOT too. As I never use them (only for analysis AFTER the game), so I simply don't like to continue here as much as I did.

I want to see, which kind of performance you demonstrate in the REAL world out there and what you can do across a REAL board with real pieces, where you cannot use the aid of opening libraries and analysis engines.

Of course the chess in the net was an interesting experience, I played a few good games and sometimes I even learned something. Yet chiefly I learned, that I am not able and not willing to go into a competition with engines.

It is also very difficult to understand for me, what kind of dubious ego boost players get from winning their games while the key moves come from an engine. Not everybody has the insight of my friend, who finally found, that the world of chess was a better place without him... Tongue out

Comments


  • 9 Months Ago

    franzpeter

    "An engine is a chess playing program that will make the best move."

    No. It isn't. If you run a very good machine with a wide horizon, you have to let it work for hours and hours.

    The machine will say, "all is ok with this move, be happy". You make this move, and 10 moves later the machine says, "upps, sorry you are in very dangerous situation, I am afraid you will loose"Frown.

    You understand what I mean by horizon?

    Try when you analyse your games (after the game ended Wink).

    And I do not trust people, who say "I never ask my machine".

    When I played tournament chess, I worked out all my openings nearly to mate. When there came the fritz machines and others, I checked my opening program with a machine. Real hard work. You never knows, where your inquisitiveness will led you to.  But the variants did mostly not arrive in real games (only twice a yearLaughing, and you beat a grandmaster in a real game, good feeling it is). But your opponent makes club-moves, or moves with  hardly to undeck ideas, so you have to think yourself.

    But the point is, you are allowed to use books. Newest books are all made with machines. If there is a fine combination, the author detected by his machine, the chess.com machine will accuse you of cheating. And you are allowed to use machines after the game closed.

    In my opening-program there are some fine combinations I found in books, in commented games and analyses of my own with a machine.

    And my friends, if someone says, I never use macines, he is telling lies. You know about the childrens of the late canonised popes?

    So when you practice bookknowledge, you use machines. If the mache-move was made one-year ago by the writer (with machine), or the same move is made by you (without machin), where do you think is the difference? The time? Ore interposing a material like a book? The move was detected by a machine.

    So the system in this community is in this point not logical.

    If in real chess you do not spend your time with computers, you will never advance in chess. But do understand it right, you are the master, the machine is your slave, just saying: not this move, your poor pawn.

    With friendly greetings

    franzpeter

  • 22 Months Ago

    Defacto

    TDT misses you ;()

  • 23 Months Ago

    catholicbatman

    You are a very good player. I know you must play other people on this site that use engines because you are near what is supposedly their rating. I'd just play the people you know are not using engines. I don't understand how people can use these engines and still enjoy playing the game. To me, I play to learn and try to win, and it's really great when you grunt a win out of a long game. At any rate, if you leave, I wish you the best.

    Thanks for the good game.

  • 23 Months Ago

    RegicidalManiac

    I have had a couple of very good games with you and enjoy our brief discussions. I hope that you will stay here so we can continue. As far as those using engines go... they are only hurting themselves... and making us better players. If you play well against an engine you will play better against us humans. Dont let someone elses distorted actions control what you do. I hope this makes sense to you.

  • 23 Months Ago

    bobobbob

    An engine is a chess playing program that will make the best move.

  • 23 Months Ago

    balgears

    Your reference to using "engines" while playing.  I'm new here.  What is an "engine"?

  • 23 Months Ago

    WaterAlch

    I feel that chess.com does a good job of catching those who use engines. As for the rating comparison from here and otb, playing them first of all are different as it is.  I can tell tactics a lot easier on here than on the board, so developing an eye for otb has and is taking time.

    As such, in time I feel that both ratings will be quite similar as progress is coming nicely. :)

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