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Women in Chess – a matter of opinion.

Submitted by Arby on Tue, 01/15/2008 at 1:21am.

We’ve watched it on TV; documentaries such as, “My Brilliant Brain – Susan Polgar, (Episode 2).” We’ve read it in magazines, in newspapers, and on the forums of Chess.com. There’re times when it does get old, especially with frivolous banter and the extremists.

I thought Zahir Ahmadov took an interesting approach as he gathers the thoughts of GM Kateryna Lahno, WGM Lela Javakhishvili and WGM Firuza Velikhanli on the notion:  are men better at the game, and if so why?’

His 1st interview was with Kateryna Lahno. Here are the excerpts:

 

Z.A. How many hours do you prepare for chess every day?

K.L. It depends, but mostly I spend for chess five to six hours every day.

Z.A. Why do you think men play better than women?

K.L. I think men’s techniques are better than women’s?

Z.A. Well, but what is the reason for that?

K.L. The reason is different emotional tunings of the two genders. Women are more emotional than men, which is why they fail when it comes to nerves. Moreover, women are more nervous about different things. Most men would think that these are very tiny problems in life.

Z.A. Then what makes Judit different to other girls, who cannot make it to 2600 or over?

K.L. I think Judit started playing in her early ages. Moreover, she works hard on chess. This makes her different from others.

Z.A. What do you think about the future of women in chess? Do you think time will come when women will play just as strong as men?

K.L. That will probably happen sometime in the future, but I think that the number of strong female players will always be less than strong male players.

 

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Lela Javakhishvili seemed to agree with the notion that men are better because they are stronger. But first I asked how much time she spends to chess every day.

L.J. When preparing for special events or tournaments I spend seven hours on chess every day, but on normal days my preparation does not exceed four hours.

Z.A. Why do you think women perform poorer than men in chess?

L.J. I think it is linked with their physical power?

Z.A. Physical power? But chess is about thinking?

L.J. Right, but female players become exhausted more quickly than men because they are weaker. That is why they may fail by the end of the game. Physical power may be decisive in many games. Take any game you want. For instance, in tennis women can never compete with men…

Z.A. You well might be right. However, there might be other reasons. Do you think that women perform poorer than men because historically they had more distractions than men, like chores at home? Even today, in our cultures women cannot spare time for chess like men, because they have lots of work at home. Is this the case with you?

L.J. No, I do not think that that is the reason. I do not have a brother to compare but I think even if I had one I still would find more time than him to devote to chess. Actually, it is my mother and sister who do the housework, not me. Therefore, I can find sufficient time for chess every day.

Z.A. Then what do you think about the future of women’s chess? Do you think women will be able to play like men?

L.J. I really don’t know. It is too difficult to answer.

 

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Firuza Velikhanli won her second consecutive game against one of the leaders of the tournament, V. Cymilte, so I was sure that she would answer my tedious questions about the genders.

Z.A. Do you spend much time on chess?

F.V. Actually, I have spent no time on chess recently. To be more precise, I have not spent sufficient time on chess for the past year. I gave birth to my third child a month ago, so I did not have time to prepare. But I simply could not turn down the offer to take part at this tournament.

Z.A. May I ask you why men play better than women?

F.V. This has already been proved that women can play like men…

Z.A. How? Women can hardly make it to 2600, while only Judit is over 2700. The difference between her and her closest female follower is 135 points? Yet even Judit is not in top ten today…

F.V. Well, first I should say that Judit is a phenomenal lady. Second, the problem is that unlike men most women cannot devote their lives to chess. Personally, for me chess is not the most important thing in my life, my family is.

Z.A. Ainur Sofieva and you were strongest players of Azerbaijan about 15 or 20 years ago, but today many young males make GM norms in this country, easily exceeding your highest ratings. Meanwhile, Azeri female players are not among the best 50 female players in the world…

F.V. Ainur made a career for herself and did not devote herself to chess. I started spending my time with my family. As for the young generation of Azeri female players, I think they have always received less attention than boys in this country. Things are changing with the election of the new management of the chess federation. I hope more money will be spent for women chess in Azerbaijan in the future.

 

For a full extent of Zahir’s report, please go here: http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=4132

» posted in No more Allygirl!
 

Comments:

by satisfice - 5 months ago
Eastsound, WA United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 82

What is the motivation for worrying about this? Or investigating it?

 

Obviously there's some reason that there are fewer women than men in the top tier of chess. Or at any tier. Does it matter what the reason is? Maybe it's congenital. Maybe it's emotional. Maybe it's circumstantial. Or cultural. Just ask yourself: so what? If an omniscient genie told you the answer, how would you play any differently?

 

Whomever I'm playing, I hope I'm better than him, whether he's a he or a she. Or a hermaphrodite, or a moss creature from one of Jupiter's moons. I just pretend everybody is a he (why? because I'm a man and I understand men). If women are 10% worse than men, I don't care, because I don't play a gender type, I play a specific person at a specific time.

 

We play chess, we all should understand this: We move based on the specific pieces on the board at a specific time. I don't go Bb5 because my opponent plays Nc6 75% of the time. I go there because in this game, here and now, he HAS brought the knight out and I can continue the Ruy Lopez. 

 

Deal with specifics. I may know that you tend to be loose with your pawns, and maybe I'll watch for that, but I play the game in front of me. Similarly, I may predict that my fierce beared scowl could intimidate a younger female player across the board from me, making her play less decisively. I may even be so childish as to hope it will. But I'm not so foolish as to expect that it will. 

 

Besides, the very question of why women aren't at good as chess as men presumes that winning is the same as being good. If all we care about is winning, then none of us are worth anything except the world champion himself. No, not even him, because Deep Blue beats him.

 

What if, instead, we ask the question: what kind of people make other people happy to be playing chess? What kind of people, through chess playing, make the world a better place? Maybe women are generally better at coaching chess, for instance. Come to think of it, I learned chess from my mother.

 

-- James 


by Batgra - 5 months ago
New Jersey United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 18

I used to know a girl in college used to be able, and enjoy, to read a book and have a conversation at the same time. 

 I dont think its physical stamina that sets men apart from women... i think its focus.  women tend to be better at multitasking then men... the idea of sitting infront of a chess game for hours at a time, with no magazine to read, or phone to talk on between turns probably doesnt sit well with most.  multitasking usually results in missing something on occasion (not hearing, not seeing, not paying full attention, etc).   in chess if you miss something that could easily mean the game is lost. 


by kurtgodden - 7 months ago
Sterling Heights, MI United States
Member Since: Oct 2007
Member Points: 341

I think the comment about losing stamina in the end game is ridiculous.  Women give birth.  That takes as much stamina as anything I've seen in sport.

 


by Charlie91 - 7 months ago
International
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 677
If a female player gets insulted by a male opponent, that should only make her stronger; I don't agree that they lose interest and drop the game just because they're insulted.
by lostapiece - 7 months ago
tamworth England
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 2171
women are supposed to have more stamina than men,er  i think,i think social factors are the main reasons,but there is also that left/right brain usage difference,.       but what do i know i`m a factory worker lol
by andersbanders - 7 months ago
Arvika Sweden
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 16
and about the thing whit men being stronger than wimen? how often do you look at a chessgeek and think, wow, look at the muscles on that one?
by andersbanders - 7 months ago
Arvika Sweden
Member Since: Nov 2007
Member Points: 16

in my opinion, the oly reason why more men are better at chess is because of more men plays chess, I mean, isn't that obvius? and why does more men play chess? shourly beacuse of cultural reasons and nothing else, beacuse how strange it seems, we have a way of treating people in different ways beacuse of the colour of thier skin, thier gender, even their chlotes, and that a lot of idiots in the chess worl tell their female adversaries that they never can be as good as the men because they don't have a penis doesn't really boost their confidence in their own skills and possibilities to evolve as players in a male dominated game like chess is.

by Arby - 7 months ago
Mountbatten Singapore
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 770

I liked Kateryna’s take on the emotional factor the best. I empathize with such sentiments...I’m at 50-50 with Lela’s statements of physical/mental endurance – but she does have a point about the endgame.

by Charlie91 - 7 months ago
International
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 677
Nice read.  I guess you see more men in chess because there are more men interested in chess--lesser pool of talent for women.  I guess this is the main reason.  So one solution to the 'problem' is to make it more interesting--good to have tournaments that pay good money.
 

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