hmmm...that's right. Even with the knight's checking ability, it doesn't speed up any checkmate...better to get rid of her, first.

I see, said the blind man, as he grabbed his hammer and saw.

bugoobiga, if 18. Bf6, would 18. . . Qh6 hold?

On C35, Dragoljub Baretic vs. Uremovic, couldn't white have gone 18. Bf6?

GREAT trap.

Diagram of the KGD variation on the s.p.t.[*] theme I just posted:

[*] 'stupid patzer's-trap'

a trap in the King's Gambit declined: same thing as 'that stupid patzer's trap'[1], but black has to be just a tad more careful in freeing his Q:

[Event "KGA-trap"]
[Site "no. 1"]
[Date "????.??.??"]
[Round "?"]
[White "NN"]
[Black "NN"]
[Result "0-1"]

1.e4 e5 2.f4 Bc5 3.fxe5?? Qh4+ 4.g3 Qxe4+ 5.Qe2 Qxh1! {safe!} 6.Nf3 Nc6 7.Nc3 Nd4! {and the black Q is free.} 0-1

[1] I must clarify that I meant 'stupid' to apply to the 'trap', not the trappee (nor the trapper).

NJY's Danish Trap, as well as Ian_Sinclair's Stupid Patzer Trap are quite similar to this well known KGA trap: 1. e4 e5 2. f4 f6 3. fxe5 fxe5 4. Qh5+ g6 5. Qxe5+ Qe7 6. Qxh8 Qxe4+ 7. Kd1.

Thanks, y'all.

Ian Sinclair's first trap is called 'that stupid patzer trap' - at least I called it that on fics in 2006 when opp fell into that and disconnected, and I called - SCREAMED - for immediate-adjudication..

the game was adjudicted in my favour in 5 minutes - so maybe the name  'that stupid patzer trap' works! :)

This traps occurs in many openings: mine was with white with the danish [excellent against patzers]:

1.e4 e5 2. d4 f6?! 3. de fe?? {it is amazing how many patzers fall for it - I must have about 100 danish games courtsey this 'defence'}

4.Qh5+ {a smarter points-hoarding patzer should have disconnected here - since on fics unless black's 6th move is made disconnection means the game counts as 'not having occurred at all' }
4...g6 5.Qxe5+ Qe7 6.Qxh8 Qxe4+
7.Be3 {not best - but who cares! - anyway, opp. NOW sees the light and disconnects: I ask adjudication, they give standard bureaucratic nonsense [no demonstrable checkmate, so - apply for adjudication after 1 week at least; adjucation may take up to 4 months..] I scream about adjudication policies of fics, add  ___ism and ___ charges [*] - and lo and behold: in 5 minutes I get "since this seems to be a special case, it is adjudicated a win for normajeanwhy[**] " [1]

[*] which happen to be true; so I left it for the fics-experienced reader to fill in in line with chess.com policies -- the blanks mean i could be saying 'humanism' and 'stoicism' [or not ;] so I am not necessarily criticising fics ...

[**]my handle at fics

[1] Since 2007, on fics, if opp disconnects I resign. If I get disconnected then I resign the next time I log in. Even if I have mate in 1.

Or this one for black.

I like the LAST one the BEST.

ADK