Beating Greed

Submitted by ih8sens on Mon, 01/12/2009 at 6:32am.

I'm sure everyone has lost to an opponent who played very materialisticly (is that a word?!).  Often, they take pawns that your instinct tells you had no business being taken... and yet you are unable to exploit it and so end up losing.

 

As annoying as that is, playing against materialists can also lead to some beautiful chess. 

 

Bon Appetite! :P.

 

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by SmokeJS - 5 months ago
Arrakeen Canada
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If I could change my name it would be ih8leafs.

by P_U_N - 5 months ago
Tyler, TX United States
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ah...I miss the obvious check..i think you would have been allright, you have an advanced pawn - and blacks rook is pinned for a few moves..

by ih8sens - 5 months ago
Sudbury, Ontario Canada
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I've added the 'if e5' variation :).

by P_U_N - 5 months ago
Tyler, TX United States
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I'm curious why 12.e5 loses to nxd5...couple of variations posted...

by Smartattack - 5 months ago
Portugal
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Good one ih8sens!just tell me..you saw the moves for mate by force or you just had some ideas on how to get it?Cause your attacking idea strethces for long moves!

Well done

by ih8sens - 5 months ago
Sudbury, Ontario Canada
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Actually wetpaste you're only half right.

 

It was once believed that with perfect play black wins the muzio... however since the invention of powerful engines and all that jazz... people changed their tune to 'draw with perfect play' ... at this point (because it was recently learned that taking that extra pawn on g2 loses) the position is VERY unclear.  I'd like to think that if white is patient enough he can actually win with perfect play.

 

Whatever the case... theory hasn't stated the result, it's just stated moves that have worked in the past.

 

Edit - Of course, Fischers 'refutation' is a nice way to equalize tactically... and the 2. ... Bc5 line is almost entirely uncharted territory and yet prefered by some engines!

by wetpaste - 5 months ago
United States
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g5 is pretty normal for black in the kings gambit, I wouldn't call it greedy. I think this is some variation of the muzio, although with best play black is winning. But it is really tricky, If you are a muzio expert you will win most of your sub 2100 games I would imagine.

by KillaBeez - 5 months ago
Kansas United States
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The Muzio Gambit

by Adamperfection - 5 months ago
Brantford Canada
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that was a great game what is that line called I saw the knight sack before on chess mentor but it didn't tell me the name of the line...

by plane129 - 5 months ago
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Nice Game.

by Writch - 5 months ago
Western Reserve United States
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Jpatrick wrote:

Sometimes what is mistaken for materialism is really just courage.


Sure, for higher rated players like yourself. Otherwise, "sometimes"  there is a Blue MoonTongue out

by Jpatrick - 5 months ago
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Sometimes what is mistaken for materialism is really just courage.

by Writch - 5 months ago
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You know, I was going to make a post about this same thing... "Materialists" as you call them.

It's like the concept of finesse is totally lost on them - like their plan is to widen the point spread so much that you feel humiliated enough to resign.

I have played a few recent games in tournies where one would think a quick mate is preferable - because if everyone in the round played so, then the winner of the round is determined and the round can advance much sooner.

But, alas, no. Some folks would rather shamelessly grind on you and hope that you quit (or time-out). Only in about half of them can I recover by taking advantage of their greed and use it to lure them into a trap (I'm not that good).

Is this a trend or I just haven't played online long enough?

by luis3141 - 5 months ago
Buenos Aires Argentina
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Nice attack, black was looking for trouble...

by KillaBeez - 5 months ago
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Very nice game!  I love that line! Great attack.

 

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