New Szen Theory, Draw Ettiquette

Submitted by sam_musil on Sun, 06/21/2009 at 2:44pm.

I am currentlydirecting a six-person double round-robin tournament, Strong Masters Only, that required a 2300 initial rating to participate.  I was fortunate to get a very strong field with 3 of the 6 players over 2400 in their initial ratings.  James_Bond, on my friends list, has an initial rating of 2362, but his current rating is 2494!  That made four of the six players over 2400.  This was the strongest field that I had ever seen at Chess.com up until my later Senior Masters Only Tournament.  Lurker88 and GOWWL (Stefanos) jumped out to an early lead and then the following annotated game was decided. 

I want everyone to follow the analysis and tell me if my rejection of Stefanos' draw was inappropriate in any way.  My remark "I expect this to be a long game because white has definite winning chances!" was meant in jest as that is my style.  One move after I rejected his draw offer, Stefanos resigned all of his remaining games in this tourney.  Stefanos, I do apologize if I offended you with my comments.  Do not let the ending controversy confuse you.  The game features an important theoretical line in the

Sicilian Defense Paulsen Variation Szen Variation.  Enjoy!

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by sam_musil - 4 months ago
Marysville, Kansas United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 266

Friends ,

As of today, 719 fellow chess lovers have read this blog.  This is the most widely read blog that I have posted!  Also, 15 of my readers have left comments.  I am grateful that so many Chess.com players really want to learn to love chess the way that I do.  Chess is a search for truth in every position and it is so rich in complexity that even familiar positions constantly surprise me. 

I have neglected to respond to bobobbob who commented that he trusts Fritz more than Chess.com , even at the 2500 rating.  Fritz is supposed to have over a 2900 rating at the most advanced setting , so it should be more accurate.  However, Chess.com analyzes a whole game for me in just a few hours where I might take a week or more with Fritz to check all of the "important" positions that I have identified!  Chess.com is a tremendous time-saver for me since I do not use Fritz on any game that I have won! 

I hope that all of my fellow readers will learn to do extensive post-mortem analysis on all of their draws and losses, just as I have done for the last 15 years!  My chess mentor Israel Kutasov taught me that the most important method of gaining strength was to analyze your own games with a strong master , either human or a computer!  If you believe that you played a "perfect game," one that cannot be improved and you did not win , then you must be satisfied if you have a draw with black .  In all other cases, I switch to a different opening variation because I am playing to win all my games with white and at least draw all with black !

Sincerely,  Sam

by shamsaimon1971 - 4 months ago
pj Malaysia
Member Since: Feb 2009
Member Points: 7

the is is still early...everything can happen

by GRThompson - 4 months ago
United States
Member Since: Jan 2009
Member Points: 35

I am happy to see from this that cheating still has apt punishment.  I play here because I learn here.  I just don't understand the cheat?! 

by bobobbob - 4 months ago
Dallas, Texas United States
Member Since: Feb 2008
Member Points: 695

I like your analysis, very insightful.

However, when you say, according to chess.com computer, I am a bit skeptical because i don't think it is accurate at all. I trust Fritz a whole lot more!

by brandonQDSH - 4 months ago
Honolulu, HI United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 996

sam_musil

I'm that that your mystery was solved. I would have been very confused too if someone thought that refusing a draw here was inappropriate. I mean, if this was Kasparov vs. Karpov, then yeah, I guess just go for the grandmaster draw after 20 moves. But for the rest of the world, the position is still unclear, even for a USCF Senior Master.

by sam_musil - 4 months ago
Marysville, Kansas United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 266

Lastwarrior2010 ,

Thank you for solving the mystery.  Stefanos account was closed because he was cheating!

Thanks to everyone for helping me to sovle the mystery!

Sincerely,  Sam

Henrylarrysadie ,

My refusal of the draw offer was not in jest, but my comment that "I expected this to be a long game because I thought white had winning chances! " was meant to decline his draw offer in a funny manner.

Sorry about the confusion,  Sam

by lastwarrior2010 - 4 months ago
Seattle, Washington United States
Member Since: Dec 2008
Member Points: 838

He resigned all his games because his account was closed for cheating.

by Lurker88 - 4 months ago
Clearwater, FL United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 10

I think the refusal had little to do with it. His account was closed, hence the resignations I suspect.

by CPawn - 4 months ago
Sacramento, California United States
Member Since: Aug 2008
Member Points: 734

Either im missing something or he is incredibly thin skinned.  He resigned because of you declined his draw offer?

by henrylarrysadie - 4 months ago
United States
Member Since: Apr 2009
Member Points: 1

At the beginning of this post you say, " My remark was meant in jest as that is my style."

Refusal of a draw is not a "comment."  I am inclined to believe that your opponent's dropping out of the tournament had nothing to do with a draw refusal, but instead either a real or perceived insult.  How well does this other player know your "style?"

by shuttlechess92 - 4 months ago
California United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 1849

I"m very confused with your analysis. why do you keep saying it "was in the main database", etc. Aren't you using intuition? or are most of your moves guided by the chess.com database?

by steevmartuns - 4 months ago
Pennsylvania United States
Member Since: Nov 2008
Member Points: 526

I don't see how he could have possibly been offended by what you said. All you said was "No thanks, I'd rather play more chess!" What's wrong with that, eh?

I'm amazed at how in-depth your thinking goes on these moves, in such a complicated position. Crazy skills, indeed.

by Jpatrick - 4 months ago
Pennsylvania United States
Member Since: Jul 2008
Member Points: 192

Just because a position is equal or approximately equal, that does not mean that any draw offer carries obligation. Equal is not drawish.  If you sit down to the chessboard, you should expect to win your wins and draw your draws.

by sam_musil - 4 months ago
Marysville, Kansas United States
Member Since: Jan 2008
Member Points: 266

Lurker88 ,

I thank you for your support in this matter.  I did not know that according to the Chess.com computer that I was slightly worse at the time of rejecting the draw offer.  I felt that I was better and would have winning chances.

Thanks again,  Sam

wetpaste ,

I agree that we were following my main line that I had analyzed previously, not the main line.

Sorry,  Sam

by wetpaste - 4 months ago
United States
Member Since: Aug 2007
Member Points: 112

I think it is funny how you refer to a line that hasn't been played before as, "the main line". When its only the line that you have analyzed, more like, "your main line", then "the".

by Lurker88 - 4 months ago
Clearwater, FL United States
Member Since: Dec 2007
Member Points: 10

In my humble opinion there is a lot of play left in this position and a draw refusal cannot in any way be considered inappropriate.

 

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